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ASP Terminology & General Radio Programming Basics

Since most users will be upgrading to a true hobby grade R/C system to use ASP a basic understanding of how this system work will be of great advantage. In particular knowing what is sent from the outputs of your receiver and how servos or control boards like ASP respond will help immensely. This is what will be concentrated on here.

When your receiver gets information from your radio it splits this information up into the individual channels and sends it onto your control board, ESC or servos. All this information consists of is a single 'on' pulse of between 1 and 2 milliseconds repeated every 20 milliseconds. It is simply the amount of time that the pulse is on that tells the servo or control board what to do. In the case of servos a pulse of 1 millisecond will send the servo fully left and a pulse of 2 milliseconds sends the servo fully right. A pulse of 1.5 milliseconds is exactly in the middle and hence the servo will move to the mid point or NEUTRAL position. Since 1.5 is a rather odd number to work with it is easier to refer to the neutral position as 0 even though it represents a pulse of 1.5 ms. Calling the neutral position 0% is somewhat better as it represents a zero amount of displacement left or right. The full extent of travel left may then be termed -100% and the full extent of right travel +100% . Thus a pulse of 1 ms becomes -100% and 2 ms becomes +100%. The instructions for ASP use this convention. The table below demonstrates how the various pulse width signal on CH5 control the functions of ASP.


Consequently, the “ON” signal for Asp is referred to as CH5 +100%. This means that to turn Asp “ON” Asp is looking for a pulse of between 1.8 and 2 milliseconds on Channel 5. When such a pulse is received Asp will “turn on” . If CH 5 is then returned to the neutral position we can continue to use the channel to receive more commands. Likewise if CH5 is in neutral when the tank is powered up we can use the 100% signal as a switch to turn the tank on when it is desired to do so.

If you wish to use a radio other than a 9X or Taranis series radio you will need to refer to your own radio manual as to how to assign switches to channels and what values to output for a particular switch position.

In summary, to set up a switch on your radio to control a function on Asp you must:
1. Set one position of the switch to output a neutral signal (0% ie: around 1.5 ms)
2. Set the second position of the switch to output the desired activation signal
To operate start with switch in position 1. Activate the desired function by moving switch to position 2 and then return the switch to position 1 (toggle).

This information is important if you are programming your own radio switches to control Asp. Remember, if you are using a 9XR series or Taranis radio all of the settings for Asp can be downloaded and transferred to you computer via (USB). It is al done for you :). Knowing the above will help you if you wish to change from the default ASP radio settings.

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Kevin,

Where can I download the Asp settings for the Taranis Plus radio. Just received the Asp today and have been muddling through the radio settings we I read the post above.

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HI John

Sorry but there are none as yet. However, you can still open the ASP eepe model file in either Open TX or EEpe and manually transfer the settings

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Kevin,

Maybe I'm a little obtuse, lol, although I haven'the see the asp eepe model. Where do I find it?

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Kevin,

I found the Asp model file eepm, although when i open it with eepe none of the settings for the mixes are there.

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Hi John

That is most odd as this is what I see when I open ASP01_9X.eepm with eePe

Screenshot 2015-06-01 08.48.23.png

Are you doing it right?

Open eepe
Click File ->New
A blank eepe document will appear. Click on a model slot 01:
Since we are loading a model file it can only go into a Model slot
Click File -> Load Model/Settings
Select ASP01_9X and load it up.
ASP01 will now be loaded into Model Slot 1 - double click on ASP01 and a new window will appear - click on the Mixes Tab.

Here is the same using eepskye and loading the file ASP01_9XRPro.eepm. These settings are more suitable for the Taranis

Screenshot 2015-06-01 09.01.57.png

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Kevin,

This is what I get.

[img]eepe%20asp%20Capture.JPG[/img]


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Hi John

Ok for a start you are trying to load the Pro file ASP01_9XRPro.eepm into regular eePe. Even if I try this here eePe will crash so how you even got to a screen capture is pretty good.

The Taranis and 9XR Pro use eePeSKY (eepskye.exe). If you are loading the ASP01_9XRPro.eepm you need to be using the eePeSKY program NOT plain eePe. Confusing, yes I know but eepesky is on your computer. It is installed with eePe BUT the install does not do a shortcut. You have to go directly to the folder that eepe is installed into and you will find it there (eepskye.exe). Create a shortcut and plonk it onto your desktop.

Repeat the process using eePeSKY and the ASP01_9XRPro.eepm file and you will most likely get different results.

If for some reason you can not find eePeSKY then use regular eePe and load the plain ASP01_9X.eepm file.

With the Taranis you will most likely be using eepeSKY.

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Kevin,

I have attempted with three different PC's and have had the same result with each. Download eepe, install, search for the install folder, run eepesky, and then open the ASP file. Each time it does not open the file no matter which computer used. Since I have no problem working within the opentx format, do you have a list for what ASP is looking for on each channel for the functions? If I could have that list i can program the Taranis through opentx.

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Hi John

Here is the Taranis settings for Asp. It is an eepe file that will open up in CompanionTX/OpenTX for the Taranis.

ASP_Taranis.zip

If you still have problems you can see the settings here in the screen shot. You can manually transfer them
Screenshot 2015-06-15 09.36.25.png

NOTE: If you are able to open the Taranis file you will still need to set the protocol for your module/s and you will need to look at the switch/throttle warnings and adjust to suit. Control is set to mode 3 which means throttle on right. RTEA is the channel order.

I will have to do a video on the switch setup but you should start the tank/radio with ALL 3 position switches in the middle position and the 2 position switches (SF and SH) to the back

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